Saturday, October 19, 2002

CTBA to keep the NT coaching staff

CTBA (Chinese Taipei Basketball Association) decided to keep the NT coaching staff intact after the Oct. 18 meeting, although fans criticized the staff's poor job in both the ABC Championship and Asian Games. But CTBA president Wang Jen-da said the association plans to hire an foreign consultant to help the inexperienced NT coaches. The long term goal for Taiwan NT is still to make it to the 2008 Beijing Olympics.

Current NT coaching staff:
Head coach: Lee Yun-kwang
Assistant: Dong-fan Che-ter

Chen Hsin-an cut by the Kings

Chen Hsin-an (also goes by the name of Sean Chen) was cut by the Sacramento Kings after the Oct. 16 pre-season game vs. the New York Knicks, ending his first trip to the NBA pre-season training camp. Chen plans to come back to Taiwan in early November but intends to look for opportunities to play and improve his skills in the States for the coming year.

Chen appeared in two of the Kings’ four games prior to the cut, collecting 2 points, 2 rebounds and 1 assist in 12 minutes. He vows to be a better player if he has another chance to be in the training camp next time.

Tuesday, October 15, 2002

Asian Games - China beat South Korea for women's gold

China Women's NT stopped Korea's furious rally in the fourth quarter and held on for a 80-76 victory in the gold medal game of the 2002 Asian Games.

Led by F Sui Fei-fei who scored a team-high 18 points, China have four players in double-digits in scoring. Ren Lei has 16. 198cm C Chen Nan had 14 points and 14 rebounds. Chen Lu-yun, who made two critical baskets in the last minutes, has 13.

South Korea, which trailed in most of the games but took the lead in the last three minutes, was led by F Jung Sun-min's 29 points and 7 rebounds. Kim Kwe-ryong followed with 18.

Taiwan Women's NT beat Japan in the bronze medal game, 86-79. Japan couldn't find the way to stop the "Twin Towers" of Taiwan. Chiang Feng-chun made 11-of-17 shots and had 25 points and 9 rebounds, while 188cm C Cheng Hui-yun has 21 points and 18 rebounds on 7-of-10 shooting. G Chang Hui-yin had 11 points.

Noriko Hawaguchi led Japan with 20 points. Kahori Kawakami, Atsuko Watanabe and Mutsuko Nagata each scored 13 points.

Asian Games - South Korea stuns China in finals

South Korea pulls off one of the biggest upsets in its basketball history when they stuns China, 102-100, in overtime in Asian Games Final. South Korea wins the gold medal in Asian Games for the first time since 1982 in New Dehli and prevents China from winning its fifth consecutive Asian Games gold.

Trailed by as many as 17 in the first half, South Korea toughens up its zone defense and double-teaming in the second half. It works. With China turning the ball over again and again, South Korea comes right back into the game after a 26-18 third quarter.

Thanks to the instant firepower from Liu Yu-dong, China still hold the lead, 88-81, with 67 seconds to play. Kim Seung-hyun's steal and fastbreak layup make the score 83-88. Li Nan answered. With 32.5 seconds remaining and leading 90-83, it seems China has locked up the victory.

Koreans refuse to give up. Following Hoon Joo-yup's layup basket, South Korea knocked down a three-pointer off a backcourt steal. 15 seconds left, China still lead 90-88 with a last possession. The most unbelievable thing happened when Hu Wei-dong bricked two free-throws after South Korea's intentional foul. Hoon Joo-yup charged up frontcourt and scored on another twisting layup to tie the score with three seconds left.

In overtime, Korea immediately takes the lead, 93-90, after center Seo Jang-hoon's three-pointer. Hoon Joo-yup burned Liu Yu-dong twice and make the score 99-95, Korea. Yao Ming, who is forgotten by his coach and teammates during crunch time, is called for a goaltending on Bang Sung-yoon with 1:15 left, when Korea leads 101-95.

Chinese rally for the last time. Liu Yu-dong and Hu Wei-dong made five consecutive free-throws in the span of 20 seconds to make it 100-101. Moon Kyung-eun then made one of two free-throws before Hu We-dong's desperation three-pointer falls short.

205cm C/F Kim Joo-sung, who's still a college student, leads Korea with 21 points on 9-12 shooting. Hoon Joo-yup walked out of the shadow of his knee injury, scoring 20 points on 10-13 shooting. Another former star Chun Hee-chul, who also has been plagued by knee injury, made 8-of-16 shots and has 20 points.

After knocking out China in 1997 ABC Championship, South Korea scored another victory over China in major Aisan tournament. In the 1997 victory, Chun Hee-chul and Hoon Joo-yup also played major roles.

Yao Ming is closely guarded by at least two Korean defenders for the whole game, but still has a game-high 23 points and 22 rebounds. However he is virtually a non-factor in the last three minutes in regulation and overtime. It's sad to see the No.1 pick in the NBA Draft lost his last game before going to America.


GAME SUMMARY

Asian Games Final
South Korea 102-100(OT) China

Quarter score: 18-25, 36-49, 62-67, 90-90

KOR - Kim Joo-sung 21p(9-12 FG)+6rb, Chun Hee-chul 20p(4-7 3PT), Hoon Joo-yup 20p(10-13 FG), Seo Jang-hoon 15p+6rb, Bang Sung-yoon 10p, Moon Kyung-eun 10p, Lee Sang-min 6a, Kim Seung-hyun 9a

CHN - Yao Ming 23p(6-9 FG, 11-11 FT)+22rb, Liu Yu-dong 22p(8-13 FG), Li Nan 16p(6-8 FG), Hu Wei-dong 15p(4-8 FG), Liu Wei 11p

Asian Games Final Standings
1. South Korea, 2. China, 3. Kazakhstan, 4. Philippines, 5. DPR Korea, 6. Japan, 7. Taiwan, 8. Hong Kong

Sunday, October 13, 2002

Asian Games - Korea to meet China in long-awaited final

Veteran PG Lee Sang-min calmly sank the go-ahead three-pointer at the buzzer as South Korea escaped with an inspiring 69-68 win over Philippines in the semifinal of 2002 Pusan Asian Games on Oct. 12. China cruised past Kazakhstan, 131-62, as expected and will meet the Koreans in the final tomorrow (Oct. 14).

Trailing most of the game, Philippines pulled ahead, 68-66, in the final minute after PG Rodericko Racela's consecutive three-pointers. South Korea intentionally fouled Racela on Philippines' last possession and got the ball back after Racela bricked both of his free-throw attempts under pressure and an unbelievable noise from the home crowds.

Lee Sang-min, who missed his previous three three-point tries, seized the moment and stunned the Filipinos with his buzzer-beating three-point shot. Korean players and home crowds all went crazy, hugging each other.

Upset at the semifinal loss, Philippines lost another heart-breaking game today as they lost 66-68 to Kazakhstan and failed to take home the bronze medal.

In the 5th-place game, Japan couldn't find any offense besides Michael Takahashi, who had a game-high 22 points, and Takehiko Orimo, who had 17. Japan lost to North Korea, 65-74, and finished 6th-place in the tournament.

GAME SUMMARY
Oct. 13
#Kazakhstan 68-66 Philippines (Half 37-37)
KAZ - V. Strebkov 30p, Y. Issakov 16p+9rb ; PHI - J. Cariaso 18p, E. Menk 13p+14rb, P. Taulava 15p+17rb

#DPR Korea 74-65 Japan (Half 43-30)
PRK - Pak Chon-jong 22p, Pak In-chol 18p+7rb, Ri Myong-hun 11p+8rb ; JPN - M. Takahashi 22p+8rb, T. Orimo 16p+5a, T. Shinohara 10p+9rb


Oct. 12 - Semifinal
#South Korea 69-68 Philippines (Half 36-34)
KOR - Moon Kyung-eun 18p(4-6 3PT), Lee Sang-min 15p, Seo Jang-hoon 14p+8rb ; PHI - R. Racela 14p, K. Duremdes 12p, Castillo 12p, E. Menk 2p+12rb, P. Taulava 8p+10rb

#China 131-62 Kazakhstan (Half 64-39)
CHN - Lee Nan 24p+7rb, Yao Ming 19p+7rb, Liu Yu-dong 16p, Zhu Fang-yu 14p+6rb, Menk Bateer 13p+9rb ; KAZ - Y. Issakov 16p, M. Dedov 15p

A bad game for Sean Chen

Sean Chen committed three turnovers in 8 minutes and failed to score today in the Kings' 92-74 win over the visiting Golden State Warriors. Stats: 0 points(No field goal attempt), 0 rebounds, three TOs and 1 personal foul.

Chen replaced Bobby Jackson with 2:21 left in the third quarter and had the first turnover when his bad pass was stolen by Warrior F/G Mike Dunleavy. He started the fourth quarter but was called for traveling and backcourt violation within 90 seconds before leaving, replaced by David Webber, the younger brother of Kings' star forward Chris Webber.

Chen went back again when he replaced Gerald Wallace with 2:37 left in the game, when the outcome was pretty much decided. But he didn't do much before the final buzzer.

This the first pre-season home game for Sacramento. The Kings learned before the game they will lost PG Mike Bibby for 6-8 weeks due to stress fracture. They will try looking for someone to fill in for Bibby and is expected to have a second cut before the end of the week.

Saturday, October 12, 2002

Asian Games - All-time worst 7th-place for Taiwan

204cm C Tsun Wen-din had 23 points and 7 rebounds as Taiwan NT posted an 85-71 victory over Hong Kong yesterday (Oct. 10) afternoon. Taiwan finished for the 7th place in the 2002 Pusan Asian Games, the worst outcome in Asian Games Men's basketball history.

Taiwan also finished for 7th -- the worst ABC Championship performance -- in last year's ABC Championship.

Facing a must-win game, Taiwan head coach Lee Yung-kwang put only eight players on the floor. Only five of them scored. Other than Tsun, who made 10 of his 11 field goal attempts, backcourt partners Chiu Chi-yi and Yang Yu-ming each had 17 points. Taiwan trailed early in the first quarter but pulled ahead for good before halftime.

The defending champion China will meet Kazakhstan in semifinal tomorrow, while host South Korea takes on Philippines. On the final day of the tournament, October 14, semifinal winners will meet for gold. Japan will meet North Korea in the 5-th place game.

GAME SUMMARY
Oct. 10
#Qatar 69-41 UAE (Half 27-16)
QAT - O. Husam 22p+10rb, I. Yasseen 12p+11rb, A. Baker 17p ; UAE - M. Salem 13p

#Taiwan 85-71 Hong Kong (Half 47-39)
TAI - Tsun Wen-din 23p(10-11 FG)+7rb, Chiu Chi-yi 17p, Yang Yu-ming 17p, Wu Chih-wei 16p+6rb+4a, Lee Chi-ming 12p, Tien Lei 0p+1rb ; HK - Lui Chor-wai 23p, Tam Wai-yeung 18p+13rb

Oct. 9
#South Korea 114-98 Kazakhstan (Half 63-45)
KOR - Moon Kyung-eun 22p(6-7 3PT), Bang Sung-yoon 21p+7rb, Kim Joo-sung 16p+9rb, Seo Jang-hoon 18p+7rb, Chun Hee-chul 15p ; KAZ - M. Dedov 25p, Y. Issakov 22p+7rb, V. Strebkov 23p

#Kuwait 99-72 Mongolia (Half 68-36)
KUW - O. Mubarak 20p+6rb, H. Baroun 18p

Wednesday, October 09, 2002

Asian Games - China cruise past Philippines

Inspired by a 33-12 third quarter, China cruised past Philippines, 92-51, in the last game of the second round to remain undefeated in Pusan Asian Games. Although finishing only 12th-place in the WC, China is too strong for any Asian team. Their defense and height advantage held Philippines without a double-digit scorer in the game.

North Korea (DPR Korea) bounced back from a disappointing third quarter and upset Hong Kong, 74-64, by a 20-8 fourth quarter. 235cm giant Ri Myong-hun dominated Hong Kong with 22 points and 18 rebounds. North Korea will face Japan in the 5th-place game, while Hong Kong will meet Taiwan in the 7th-place game.

The semifinal matchups are almost set. China, winner of the Group I, will meet loser of South Korea/Kazakhstan game in one of the semifinals. Philippines will go up against the winner of SK/KAZ game in the other semi.

Game Summary
#China 92-51 Philippines (Half 38-21)
CHN - Hu Wei-dong 20p, Liu Wei 11p, Lee Nan 11p, Yao Ming 9p+5rb, Menk Bateer 6p+6rb ; PHI - D. Espino 7p

#DPR Korea 74-64 Hong Kong (Half 38-36)
PRK - Ri Myong-hun 22p+18rb, Pak In-chol 15p, Pyo Hyon-chol 14p ; HK - Lui Chor-wei 15p+8rb, Li Wai-lun 14p, Tam Wei-yeung 11p+9rb

Tuesday, October 08, 2002

Asian Games - Taiwan lost to Japan, 77-87

Taiwan NT suffered another blow when they lost to Japan, 77-87, today and dropped to 0-3 in the second round of the Asian Games. Chiu Chi-yi had a game-high 30 points and Yang Yu-ming had 12. Taiwan's frontcourt pales in comparison with Japan, as all frontcourt players failed to break double-digit in scoring and rebounding.

Japan's Michael Takahashi and Satoru Furuta combined for 25 points and 26 rebounds. SG T. Orimo again paced the team with 22 points.

Taiwan will have to play the Place 5-8 classification games. Also, they have to try to finish better than 7th-place, where Taiwan ranked in last year's ABC Championship -- the worst finish in Asian tournaments for Taiwan in the last 10 years.

Game Summary
#Japan 87-77 Taiwan (Half 53-46)
JAP - T. Orimo 22p, T. Setsumasa 17p+7rb, M. Takahashi 16p+16rb, S. Furuta 9p+10rb, T. Shinohara 12p ; TAI - Chiu Chi-yi 30p(8-16 FG, 9-10 FT), Yang Yu-ming 12p+7rb, Tien Lei 9p+8rb(3-12 FG), Wu Chih-wei 8p+7rb, Tsun Wen-din 4p+4rb

#Qatar 82-55 Kuwait (Half 41-29)
QAT - Z. Hashim 18p+18rb, I. Yasseen 16p+6rb ; KUW - H. Alshemmari 15p, S. Al Tabakh 14p+7rb

Monday, October 07, 2002

Asian Games - S. Korea beat Hong Kong

Game Summary
#Korea 101-58 Hong Kong (Half 54-27)
KOR - Moon Kyung0eun 14p(4-5 3PT), Hyun Joo-yup 14p+8rb, Seo Jang-hoon 14p+7rb, Chun Hee-chul

13p+8rb+4a ; HK - Li Wai-lun 17p

#UAE 109-84 Mongolia (Half 57-41)
UAE - S. Jassem 24p+12rb, A. Abdullateef 19p+9rb ; MGL - S. Sedbazar 18p, M. Tsogtbaatar 18p

Asian Games - S. Korea beat Hong Kong

Game Summary
#Korea 101-58 Hong Kong (Half 54-27)
KOR - Moon Kyung0eun 14p(4-5 3PT), Hyun Joo-yup 14p+8rb, Seo Jang-hoon 14p+7rb, Chun Hee-chul

13p+8rb+4a ; HK - Li Wai-lun 17p

#UAE 109-84 Mongolia (Half 57-41)
UAE - S. Jassem 24p+12rb, A. Abdullateef 19p+9rb ; MGL - S. Sedbazar 18p, M. Tsogtbaatar 18p

Sunday, October 06, 2002

Asian Games - China slams Japan by 45

Led by Yao Ming's 19 points and 14 boards, China slamed Japan, 104-59, today to stay unbeaten in the Asian Games. China is riding on a five-game winning streak in Pusan while Japan has no hope to make the semifinal after losing the second consecutive game and dropped to 0-2 in the second round.

In the other game, Kazakhstan rallied in the second half to beat North Korea, 89-81, and clinched a spot in the semifinal with a 2-0 record in the second round. North Korea is knocked out of the semi after dropping two straight.

Game Summary
#China 104-59 Japan (Half 59-24)
CHN - Yao Ming 19p(7-9 FG)+14rb+5a, Liu Wei 17p, Gong Xiao-bin 13p+6rb ; JAP - T. Orimo 24p(13-16 FT)

#Kazakhstan 89-81 DPR Korea (Half 40-44)
KAZ - Y. Issakov 30p+16rb, V. Strebkov 22p+7rb, B. Tikhonenko 8p+18rb, M. Dedov 16p ; PRK - Pak Chon-jong 30p(11-21 FG), Ri Myong-hun 23p(8-13 FG, 7-11 FT)+17rb

Friday, October 04, 2002

Asian Games - Taiwan lost to Philippines again

Philippines beat Taiwan easily, 83-69, this afternoon as Taiwan NT suffered the third loss to the Filipinos for the third time in a month, combined with a pair of warm-up games in Manila last month. Taiwan fell to 0-2 in the second round, while Philippines likely seize the second-place in Group I behind China with a 2-0 record.

Just like the previous warm-up games, Taiwan NT was again dominated on the boards, trailing the Filipinos 32-45. Taiwan almost trailed from start to finish, failing to catch up with the Filipinos in every facet of the game.

Philippines is well-prepared. They locked up top shooter Yang Yu-ming, who shot 4-16 in the game and had 13 points. Starting center Tsun Wen-din was even held without a field-goal attempt! SF Tien Lei had a double-double with 12 points and 11 boards. SG Chiu Chi-yi, at 26 the oldest player on the team, turned in his best effort with 19 points.

Philippines, led by P. Taulava’s 18 points and 10 rebounds, used a 19-8 third quarter to pull away. Once again, Taiwan couldn’t find the way to stop the bully Taulava and active rebounder Eric Menk underneath.

Philippines beat Taiwan in two warm-ups last month, winning both games by a combined 62 points.

In the last game of the second round, Taiwan will face the familiar opponent Japan, who beat them in this year’s Jones Cup opener with a last-second shot by Takahiro Setsumasa.

Game Summary
#Philippines 83-69 Taiwan (Half 43-34)
PHI - P. Taulava 18p+10rb, J. Cariaso 14p, R. Racela 12p, E. Menk 7p+11rb ; TAI - Chiu Chi-yi 19p, Wu Chi-wei 14p, Tien Lei 12p(4-10 FG)+11rb, Yang Yu-ming 13p(4-16 FG)

#Qatar 115-77 Mongolia (Half 59-32)
QAT - I. Yasseen 26p+9rb, O. Husam 17p+11rb, M. Abubaker 13p+11rb, I. Hashim 10p+12rb, S. Mohammed 17p ; MGL - M. Otgonbayar 19p, S. Sedbazar 8p+13rb, U. Orgil 14p

Asian Games - South Korea shoot down northern rival

Moon Kyung-eun is again unstoppable. In “ The war of south and north”, Moon scored 28, including 6-10 from the three-point land, as South Korea defeated their northern counterpart DPR Korea, 101-85, today in the second round of 2002 Pusan Asian Game.

Moon had a total of 80 points(26.7 PPG) in the last three games while shooting 18-27(66.7% FG) from the three-point range. Up until now, South Korea is still the best team in Pusan that can compete with China. The only problem for them is, they probably take it too easy in the first half. It seems they come out to play 100% only after halftime.

Game Summary
#South Korea 101-85 DPR Korea (Half 48-46)
KOR - Moon Kyung-eun 28p(6-10 3PT), Seo Jang-hoon 22p(10-19 FG)+14rb, Kim Joo-sung 18p+10rb, Lee Sang-min 11p+6rb+7a ; PRK - Pak Chon-jong 30p(12-24 FG), Ri Myung-hun 13p

#Kazakhstan 82-77 Hong Kong (Half 40-45)
KAZ - Y. Issakov 25p, S. Vdovin 11p+10rb, B. Tikhonenko 5p+12rb ; HK - Yung Kam-wah 30p, Yam Wai-yeung 15p+14rb

Thursday, October 03, 2002

Asian Games - Taiwan spanked by China, 50-113

Taiwan NT gives it up before it even started. With five U-20 players as starters, Taiwan opened its second round games in Pusan spanked by China, 50-113, and set the biggest losing margin (63 points) between two sides.

Although there's virtually no hope of winning, local fans want to see the national team play their hearts out against the Chinese giants. Taiwan NT head coach Lee Yun-kwang's decision to give up the game is questioned. Not competing in the game and throwing five teenagers to the wolves are unacceptable.

Resting will not be a good explanation, because the second round schedule is kind of loose. Taiwan still has one day's rest before taking on Philippines and two off-days before the game vs. Japan.

In other games, Philippines used a 27-16 4th quarter rally to edge Japan, 79-74, and got an important win in Group I. After beating Japan, Philippines likely will rank second behind China and advance to the semifinal.

Game Summary
#Philippines 79-74 Japan (Half 34-40)
PHI - P. Taulava 27p+12rb, J. Cariaso 14p, R. Racela 13p ; JAP - T. Orimo 33p(11-24 FG, 9-13 FT), T. Kita 13p, M. Takahashi 8p+9rb

#China 113-50 Taiwan (Half 55-30)
CHN - Yao Ming 22p(9-9 FG)+13rb, Chen Ke 18p, Lee Nan 15p, Liu Yu-dong 12p, Menk Bateer 12p+8rb ; TAI - Yang Yu-ming 19p, Ho Sho-jen 8p+8rb, Wu Dai-hao 5p+5rb, Tien Lei 2p+1rb

#Kuwait 77-74 UAE
KUW - A. Alsarraf 23p+7rb, Al Tabakh 17p+7rb, H. Alshemmari 12p, O. Mubarak 12p ; UAE - A. Ayoub 20p, S. Hamda 20p+9rb

Tuesday, October 01, 2002

Asian Games - Preliminary and second round

#Preliminary round
Group A
China 2-0, Hong Kong 1-1, Kuwait 0-2
(CHN and HK advance)

Group B
South Korea 2-0, Japan 1-1, Mongolia 0-2
(KOR and JAP advance)

Group C
Philippines 2-0, DPR Korea 1-1, UAE 0-2
(PHI and PRK advance)

Group D
Kazakhstan 1-1, Taiwan 1-1, Qatar 1-1
(KAZ and TAI advance)

#Second Round groupings
Group I - China, Japan, Philippines, Taiwan (A1, B2, C1, D2)
Group II - Hong Kong, South Korea, DPR Korea, Kazakhstan (A2, B1, C2, D1)

Format: Single round-robin within each group. Top two teams of each group enter the cross-over semifinals. Other teams enter the classification games.

Asian Games - Taiwan lost key battle to Kazakhstan

Taiwan trailed from start to finish as they lost a key battle to Kazakhstan, 75-86, in the second preliminary game in Busan. With the 11-point loss, Taiwan also failed to grab the top seed in the Group D.

If Taiwan lost to Kazakhstan by no more than five points, they can win the Group D and have an easier second round schedule(with DPR Korea, S. Korea and hong Kong). Instead, Taiwan is the second seed and bracketed with China, Japan and Philippines in the second round.

Once again, Taiwan have problems dealing with taller and stronger opponents. With 206cm C Tikhonenko and 204cm F Issakov dominating the paint, Kazakhstan jumped to a double-digit lead in the first period. The bully bigmen scored off back-door plays, offensive rebounds and putbacks, while Taiwan interior defense could do nothing to stop them from scoring and attacking.

In other games, South Korea's Moon Kyung-eun is the hottest shooter in the first three days of the tournament, shooting 12-17 from three-point range and had 52 points in two preliminaries. South Korea got past Japan with no problem. China also blasted Hong Kong, 112-38. Zhu Fang-yu, who showed flash of brilliance in the WC, led with 24 points, while Yao Ming and Menk Bateer saw limited action. 11 of Philippines 12 players scored as the Filipinos knocked out DPR Korea 89-63 to win the Group C.

Game Summary
#Kazakhstan 86-75 Taiwan (Half 50-43)
KAZ - Y. Issakov 26p+8rb, B. Tikhonenko 16p+17rb, V. Strebkov 18p, Yemelyanov 16p ; TAI - Tien Lei 18p+8rb, Yang Yu-min 15p, Chou Hong-yu 13p+7rb, Tsun Wen-din 9p+5rb, Chiu Chi-yi 8p

#South Korea 79-62 Japan (Half 35-37)
KOR - Moon Kyung-eun 26p(6-9 3PT), Chun Hee-chul 15p+6rb, Seo Jang-hoon 13p, Bang Sung-yoon 11p, Lee Sang-min 4p+9a ; JAP - T. Kita 19p, T. Watanabe 13p, S. Furuta 10p+8rb, M. Takahashi 10p+8rb

#Philippines 89-63 DPR Korea (Half 49-31)
PHI - Duremdes 21p, Taulava 13p+15rb ; PRK - Pak Chon-jong 20p, Ri Myung-hun 13p+9rb

#China 112-38 Hong Kong (Half 47-18)
CHN - Zhu Fang-yu 24p, Chen Ke 16p, Liu Wei 12p, Hu Wei-dong 11p, Yao Ming 6p+8rb, Menk Bateer 6p+5rb